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This medium-sized apple (many quite small) is elongated and conical. The not-so hidden blush is a solid fuchsia-tinged red over yellow green, but there is also a thin peach-pink wash of blush, delicate and pretty, over much of the back and sides.
Small light lenticels stand out against every background. In the right light they almost seem to glow.
There's moderate ribbing, and a thick stem in a shallow stem well.
The apple is rock hard with a sugary sweet aroma. Its calyx is shut and an unusually thick stem emerges from a shallow stem well.
Oh, my, it's another pink-fleshed apple! So that's the hidden rose. I had no idea.
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Well, there is nothing mushy or mealy about this apple.
Its fine-grained flesh, half pink, half creamy white, is crunchy crisp, dense, even hard.
Another sample is solid pink except for the seeded center.
Tasting roses
Rose's tastes include an astringent, vinous note, some generic citrus, a hint of citrus peel, and something lush and sweet that is very like fruit punch. Nice!
The rose inside of Rose is stunning, but I would like this apple even with a more conventional appearance.
This is only my second pink-fleshed apple ever, just a few weeks after my encounter with Pink Pearl. What are the odds?
Name of the Rose
Eric writes to say that Airlie was first discovered by the Newell family but then lost. It was "rediscovered" by Louis Kimzey in the 1980s; Kimzey and Schwartz "planted the first orchard ever in 1992."
This was the "Newell-Kimzey" variety; the trademark "Hidden Rose" followed. More here.
Eric says there's nothing to the story that Airlie is a different red-fleshed variety also found in Airlie (something in the soil?).
Meanwhile, another red-fleshed apple from Oregon, Mountain Rose (not the regular-fleshed apple of the same name), looks a lot like Airlie.
A bramble bush of stories
It's an "extremely rare and limited" Japanese heirloom! No, it's a "spontaneous hybrid of crabapple and golden delicious," a "rare heritage breed."
Maybe. Or, Occam's Razor, they are all the same apple marketed under different names.
It's interesting to watch several growers fight it out for brand ownership of a variety that is in the public domain. ("Hidden Rose" is a trademark, but the apple is not patented.)
But let's not lose sight of the fruit itself, which is crisp, balanced, tasty, unusual, and very good.
Thanks to Amy Traverso for sharing some of her research about this apple and its aliases. Any opinions, and errors, are entirely my own contribution.
Update: Thanks to Eric Schwartz for further untangling the story behind this variety's many names. I've revised this review accordingly.
Other accounts of this apple online describe a "cotton candy" flavor. Fair
enough, but I am sticking with fruit punch.
Hidden Rose was found in Airlie, Oregon, in the 1960s. Today this variety goes by multiple names, sometimes accompanied by extravagant claims. Several growers each boast of being the sole source of this fruit.
Some grower friends of mine were actually contacted by the guy who owns the Hidden Rose trademark and asked to pay up for using the name. I'm not sure what they did. The confusion of names is unfortunate, but then so is paying in perpetuity for using a name. Patents expire, but trademarks are forever as long as the owner enforces them. It would be nice if these apples had good un-trademarked names that growers who aren't trying to exploit them could use (presumably most of them) so we all know what we're talking about. I haven't tasted that fruit punch flavor in any but the red fleshed apples. Unfortunately, I haven't had the opportunity to try Hidden Rose yet. Too bad about that name though. It's a good name. Is Mountain Rose trademarked?
ReplyDeleteArlie (or Aerlie) Red Flesh is just not as good a name, is it? I do not think Mountain Rose is trademarked. Hidden Rose is.
DeleteSo you've got this older variety and no way to monopolize it the way UMinn controls Sweetango. If you invest in enough marketing, can you make it pay anyway?
Could you do it with, say, a russet or other old apple?
I picked up some of these in San Diego on Sunday. They are very much as you describe them--very like fruit punch!
ReplyDeleteJust for my curiosity, what name were they sold under?
DeleteSold as Hidden Rose, from Dragonberry Farms in Oregon. I also picked up some Green Dragons, also from Dragonberry, which are interesting apples you should try if you can find them.
DeleteHello, I'm a french apple grower interested about Hidden rose apples. this year I've been able to find one and only one tree in France. I would find some more or buy branches to do grafts. Can I get any advises to make come from USA that variety?
ReplyDeleteThans for your help
Bonjour, Julien, and have you been in touch with the trademark holder?
DeleteI understand they were originally from France. Hidden Rose and Mountain Rose are one and the same, both made up in modern history names.
DeleteFrancois, the story of this apple's discovery in Oregon is pretty well established in the U.S. If the truth is otherwise I would love to correct the record.
DeleteCan you provide any references that document the French connection?
No it is just what I have heard from some people who grow them.
DeleteIn the 1950's, as a little girl my family lived on Story Road in Airlie. My father liked to walk toward the Newell's to show us and visitors the amazing apple with the red inside! I thought it was on our property, but I was a very little girl,not quite 6 when we moved away! My brothers and sisters always remember that apple,and I would wonder what it was!
DeleteSo happy it is still available! My older brother saw it described in a recent book on heirloom apples.
@unknown little girl from Arlie: I think theses are enjoying renewed attention today. I say, come for the novelty of pink flesh, stay for the interesting flavors.
DeleteHey, "Unknown" little girl from Airlie. Scroll down, and read the comments from your big brother (in 2019 and in 2024).
DeleteThis is getting good.
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ReplyDeleteThis is a niche blog, so yeah.
DeleteI was wondering what the hell a "niche post" is. So I Googled it, and this is what I got. I don't feel any more enlightened....
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"What is niche post?
Uterine niche is an iatrogenic pouch-like defect at the site of previous caesarean scar due to defective tissue healing. Other terms used are uterine isthmocele, caesarean scar defect, uterine dehiscence and diverticulum."
(Adam, this is for your entertainment--I don't expect it to be "approved" for posting.. :P)
@AL, my attitude is share the entertainment! (Spam comments excepted—you won;t see those here.)
DeleteCan't help but think Airlie Red Flesh will become the name this apple is known by as the owner of the trademark expires some day. Airlie is a little place. Looking for it on a Rand-McNally atlas it appears to be little more than a rural post office about 20 miles NNW of Corvallis, Oregon. Distinctive name and apple. I will try grafting it here at home and see how it does with near-desert conditions and 2100 chill hours (degrees between 32 and 46 F.)
ReplyDeleteTwo other red-fleshed apples do well here: Redfield and Winekist. Redfield bloom is stunning and Winekist fruit is beet red inside. Neither keep more than a few weeks, so Airlie's keeping quality is welcome.
Trademarks can be renewed perpetually, which I am guessing is the plan. Arlie is for sale (though not widely) under both names. Will a Pink Lady (Cripps Pink) situation develop?
DeleteNutting Bumpus: I doubt there is a post office in Airlie. I lived there as a kid, and I recall that our mailing address was "Rt 2 box 51, Monmouth, Oregon". Or maybe it was Rt 1 box 52.... Back then (1956-1961) Airlie had a few houses, and a tiny store and two-room elementary school, both now long gone. There was no post office even then. Airlie is at the very edge of the rolling farmlands of the Willamette Valley. The dirt road west from the intersection goes up into the foothills of the coast range, and we lived up that way on the dead-end "Storey Rd". My father said that you could follow the old road from the end of Storey Rd & end up in King's Valley, where the Wieman family lived, whose kids were the same age as us. One of the Wieman kids won the 2001 Nobel Prize in Physics.
DeleteI have other comments on this page, plus one from a younger sister. Hidden Rose was growing next door to us, on the Newell's property. On Google Earth, I'm guessing their house was at about 44°43'45"N 123°21'41"W. Our house is still there, just to the east.
A few hours ago I was looking at a book at a friend's house, and saw the entry on the Hidden Rose ("Aerlie Red Flesh") discovered on property owned by Lucky and Audrey Newell in Airlie, Oregon. I was floored, and immediately contacted my siblings and parents---we lived next door to the Newells, 1956-1961. My sister Dorothy just now emailed me that she remembers they had a tree with red-fleshed apples behind their barn. We moved away when I was 9, and their house burned down some time later.
ReplyDelete--Al Stoops, now of Nelson, NH.
DeleteHey Al, I am really glad you stopped by with that story!
DeleteThis is a really interesting variety, and quite tasty.
I just now came upon this page, and started to write a comment. Then discovered that I already had, almost five years ago. But that was only a few hours after I had found out. At that time my parents were still alive, but just enough into dementia to not be able to learn much from them. But apparently my father and one of my brothers ( born in '58, so would not be expected to remember) had gone looking for that tree, not all that long ago (I think maybe 2011?). It was all grown up into Douglas fir. Fortunately, Kimzey had gotten there in time....
DeleteI don't remember the apples at all, but a YOUNGER sister said "I remember those apples!". And just now, looking over previous comments, I see she has commented here ("Unknown" little girl from Airlie, on November 6 2019). Except she is wrong about her brothers remembering.---I don't remember, and my two brothers were born in '58 and '63....
My friend at whose house I made that discovery (as well as another friend in a nearby town) each obtained and planted an "Airlie Red Flesh", or "Hidden Rose".
I came upon this page (for the second time) today while web-surfing. I have just finished a novel that featured old apple varieties (including a fictitious one featured in the book), which led me to that web-surfing. Others might enjoy it: “North Woods” by Daniel Mason.
By coincidence, my town library picked that book ("North Woods" by Daniel Mason) for this month's book discussion (which happened a few hours ago), so I had to read that delightful book again. The book features a fictitious apple variety called the "Osgood Wonder". Major Osgood's mania for apples begins when a French soldier, who had just sliced an apple with his bayonet, turns & stabs the major through his ribs, barely missing his heart--as the English were conquering Quebec. He then tastes every apple he can find, and discovers his wonder, that unbeknownst to him had sprouted long before from a seed in the stomach of a dead soldier, having grown throught the soldier's ribs. A great read, touching on US history, the loss of elm, chestnut, & passenger pigeon; of present & future climate change.
DeleteMy own story of the Airlie Red Flesh is a wonder to me. What a small world. After my discovery five years ago, I tracked down one of the Newell daughters---who had spent a few years of her childhood next to the original Hidden Rose/Airlie Red Flesh. Another of my sisters (the oldest) credits her father Lucky with sparking her lifelong interest in music. He was quite the singing cowboy, playing his guitar at PTA meetings (which were a family potluck event at the two-room Airlie school in the late 1950's). Both of those sisters now live north of Bangor, Maine. Only one brother (born in Oregon in 1958) lives anywhere near Airlie (Coos Bay).
I was thrilled to learn that Hidden Rose is grown at Scott Farm Orchard in Dummerston, Vermont, and today I bought some. And ate one. Limit to three quarts per person, at $10 a quart, so I got my limit (which was 13 apples). Going back at least one more time. It appeared to be the only variety that had such a limit.
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I just bought one of these from Samascott Orchards (at an NYC greenmarket). They were selling them as Pink-a-boo, but did say they were AKA Airlie Red Flesh in the description. I really enjoyed it.
ReplyDeletePink-a-boo! That's a new one to me.
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